Duran, this is not a Watchtower Study Article, I'm willing to bet the blood cards will also dissappear within the next 5 years for the same reason. Can't remember when was the last time they addressed that in their jw broadcasting either.
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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
by raymond frantz inthe following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
by raymond frantz inthe following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
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raymond frantz
@Duran , if you noticed ,they never talk about blood transfusions anymore.The most recent significant discussion on blood transfusions in The Watchtower magazine appears to be from the June 15, 2004 issue, 21 years ago!!!. The have quietly shifted the conversation to blood fractions instead, which sounds less triggering...
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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
by raymond frantz inthe following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
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raymond frantz
@LongHairGal:. It’s heartbreaking to think about how many have had to make such difficult decisions under immense pressure—especially when it comes to something as serious as life-saving medical care or giving up financial stability for decades of service. The backtracking you mentioned really does make it hard for people to reconcile what they were taught with what’s happening now. I totally understand your relief at having stepped away when you did. It’s a lot for anyone to process, especially for those still in it.
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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
by raymond frantz inthe following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
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The following is from the latest Study Watchtower July 2025, Study Article 28, paragraph 17:
“Consider the matter of blood fractions. Each Christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions. We may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry. (Rom. 14:4) If we were to copy what somebody else decided to do, we could weaken our own conscience. We can train and improve our conscience only by using it. (Heb. 5:14) So when should we ask a mature Christian for advice? After we have done our own research but still need help in understanding how Bible principles relate to our situation.”
On the surface, this paragraph from the July 2025 Watchtower reads like a gentle encouragement toward spiritual independence. Look closer, though, and you’ll see something far more calculated happening. This isn’t about conscience—it’s about liability. And not the spiritual kind.
For decades, the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization has been notorious for its hardline stance on blood transfusions. Members who accepted blood could face disfellowshipping, social shunning, and eternal damnation—depending on the severity of their “disobedience.” It was all very cut and dry. Until it started costing them.
Enter the modern European legal system. Spain, for one, has recently turned up the heat, launching investigations and public condemnations against the Watchtower Society over its blood policies, citing violations of medical rights, human dignity, and in some cases, even child endangerment. And here’s where things get interesting: legal troubles are bad for business. Public outrage is worse. Combine the two, and you get a rapidly shrinking pool of converts, mounting court cases, and frozen assets in more than one country.
So, what’s the organization to do? Simple. Shift the burden. Rebrand the rule. Wrap it up in language about “personal decisions” and “training the conscience.” That way, when someone ends up refusing life-saving treatment, the organization can say, “Well, we never told them what to do. It was their own choice.” How convenient.
This paragraph is damage control dressed up as spiritual guidance. It’s theocratic tap dancing, designed to absolve the Watchtower of direct responsibility while still maintaining its grip on the moral framework that guides its members. The goal isn't clarity. The goal is plausible deniability. They still don't want you taking a blood transfusion, but they really, really don't want to be held legally responsible when that decision leads to death.
Even the tone of the paragraph feels oddly passive, like a disclaimer muttered at the end of a pharmaceutical ad. “Each Christian must make up his or her own mind…” Sounds liberating—until you remember that this newfound freedom only emerged after years of intense external pressure. There’s no theological revelation behind this softening. There’s just a growing pile of lawsuits and a desperate need to look less like a high-control cult and more like a mainstream faith.
And let’s not ignore the financial angle. Legal battles are expensive. Government scrutiny means frozen bank accounts, revoked tax exemptions, and fewer countries willing to recognize your organization as a religion. That’s real money on the line. And what’s more cost-effective than giving members a little illusion of autonomy, while still training them to arrive at the “right” decision through layered publications, loaded language, and social reinforcement?
This is strategic retreat, not spiritual growth. It’s the Watchtower stepping back from the firing line, not out of compassion, but self-preservation. They haven’t changed their core beliefs—they’ve just updated the optics. And now the burden of risk, consequence, and guilt rests squarely on the shoulders of the individual member.
——only now it runs on silence, not orders.
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Memorial attendance
by Balaamsass2 incurious.
what was your local memorial attendance like tonight?
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raymond frantz
Packed full at ours, they never learn
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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A friend of mine met recently a guy who left the Witnesses over 25 years now, way before the exjw youtube videos era, he is from Wilmslow congragation. He happened to come across one of the great apostate army videos on his lordship's scandal. He was taken so much back by the enormity of the scandal he couldn't stop talking about it. I wonder how many in Wilmslow and surrounding areas are still watching with a bag a popcorn 🍿 his lordship's misadventures
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What is really Babylon the great?
by Halcon infor believers of god and christ, it seems that it should be obvious that babylon the great of revelation should be all religions and spiritual practices associated with the one true enemy of christ...the devil, satan, the snake etc.
essentially any group or individual practicing and promoting witchcraft, sorcery, devil worshipping etc.
all things practiced in ancient babylon (the nation presumably used as the model for the one in revelation).. or is this too simple of an explanation?.
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Babulylon the Great as the book of Revelation says is an end time capital of the New World Order. As Babylon of old that was deeply religious so it will be the Babylon the Great. Think of it as Rome the city controlling all kings of Europe in the Middle Ages
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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raymond frantz
We get every now and then this "Prince Andrew class" ....I used to sleep with underage girls BUT BUT look at all the great charity work I'm doing(we know how that went down with him, banned indefinitely from going anywhere near his charities). No exwhyzee the Watchtower might have no morals and like to conceal pedophiles BUT we in the xjw community make sure to kick them out and make sure they remain kicked...
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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.
for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.
any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.
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@vidiot, yes dear friend ,in others words the well known Disclosure only conclusion based on current world affairs and UAP manifestations -
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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.
for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.
any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.
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raymond frantz
@ herelam60 you are welcome dear friend